It sometimes becomes very difficult for me when someone sacrifices a piece, that their intentions are making fun of me that I am not very good at chess, they can beat me piece down or is it a genuine sacrifice?
Need some examples
sacrificing piece to open your king and attack? may be dubious or even objectively nonsensical, but most definitely not trolling.
"sacrificing" to simplify a clear lead in material to get rid of your last pieces? also not trolling, but as said, pragmatic simplification
sacrificing piece to open your king and attack? may be dubious or even objectively nonsensical, but most definitely not trolling.
"sacrificing" to simplify a clear lead in material to get rid of your last pieces? also not trolling, but as said, pragmatic simplification
@Cedur216 said in #2:
> Need some examples
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> sacrificing piece to open your king and attack? may be dubious or even objectively nonsensical, but most definitely not trolling.
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> "sacrificing" to simplify a clear lead in material to get rid of your last pieces? also not trolling, but as said, pragmatic simplification
One example: a person sacrificed a knight to break my castle thinking that I will not be able to defend the position. I knew how to defend, so I felt angry and hurt that they were thinking me like a noob. I felt like they were trolling me and saying let's see how defend against me, you noob. I cannot read mind but sacrifice so early on which does nothing in particular if they would looked at my past game on how I defended it. This seems like a clear trolling to me.
> Need some examples
>
> sacrificing piece to open your king and attack? may be dubious or even objectively nonsensical, but most definitely not trolling.
>
> "sacrificing" to simplify a clear lead in material to get rid of your last pieces? also not trolling, but as said, pragmatic simplification
One example: a person sacrificed a knight to break my castle thinking that I will not be able to defend the position. I knew how to defend, so I felt angry and hurt that they were thinking me like a noob. I felt like they were trolling me and saying let's see how defend against me, you noob. I cannot read mind but sacrifice so early on which does nothing in particular if they would looked at my past game on how I defended it. This seems like a clear trolling to me.
@Shiroyasha47 said in #3:
> One example: a person sacrificed a knight to break my castle thinking that I will not be able to defend the position. I knew how to defend, so I felt angry and hurt that they were thinking me like a noob. I felt like they were trolling me and saying let's see how defend against me, you noob. I cannot read mind but sacrifice so early on which does nothing in particular if they would looked at my past game on how I defended it. This seems like a clear trolling to me.
oh god are you really gonna get your feelings hurt after someone sacrificed their knight against you? If you won, good for you say gg and move on. Trolling is when someone in the endgame promotes all his pawns into pieces when he has direct checkmate in less than 10 moves or so or just dances his pieces across the board.
> One example: a person sacrificed a knight to break my castle thinking that I will not be able to defend the position. I knew how to defend, so I felt angry and hurt that they were thinking me like a noob. I felt like they were trolling me and saying let's see how defend against me, you noob. I cannot read mind but sacrifice so early on which does nothing in particular if they would looked at my past game on how I defended it. This seems like a clear trolling to me.
oh god are you really gonna get your feelings hurt after someone sacrificed their knight against you? If you won, good for you say gg and move on. Trolling is when someone in the endgame promotes all his pawns into pieces when he has direct checkmate in less than 10 moves or so or just dances his pieces across the board.
Besides, sacrificing pieces to weaken a castled position isn't exactly new
@KenulL_76 said in #4:
> oh god are you really gonna get your feelings hurt after someone sacrificed their knight against you? If you won, good for you say gg and move on. Trolling is when someone in the endgame promotes all his pawns into pieces when he has direct checkmate in less than 10 moves or so or just dances his pieces across the board.
Okay, i will note it down that trolling is only when what you mentioned. Where are the guidelines that says that this is the only way of trolling? I just want to be careful, because if tomorrow apart from what you mentioned I did something else and then the opponent reports me for trolling I cannot quote your comment there. I need guidelines to justify my action.
> oh god are you really gonna get your feelings hurt after someone sacrificed their knight against you? If you won, good for you say gg and move on. Trolling is when someone in the endgame promotes all his pawns into pieces when he has direct checkmate in less than 10 moves or so or just dances his pieces across the board.
Okay, i will note it down that trolling is only when what you mentioned. Where are the guidelines that says that this is the only way of trolling? I just want to be careful, because if tomorrow apart from what you mentioned I did something else and then the opponent reports me for trolling I cannot quote your comment there. I need guidelines to justify my action.
This is not a matter of rules or ToS. The only matters that affect your play of chess are fairplay (cheat, sandbag, boost) or bad sportsmanship (clocksitting, disconnecting, not starting games).
@Shiroyasha47 said in #6:
> Okay, i will note it down that trolling is only when what you mentioned. Where are the guidelines that says that this is the only way of trolling? I just want to be careful, because if tomorrow apart from what you mentioned I did something else and then the opponent reports me for trolling I cannot quote your comment there. I need guidelines to justify my action.
Its not only of course in my view its basically doing extra, unnecessary things with intent to annoy or sadden the victim, in this case playing this position with hopes for a stalemate can be destroyed with the embarrassment of getting checkmated by 8 knights. Similarly in a position where you have the upper hand, your opponent might add you time this can be seen as an insult because instead of moving they just keep adding time. another example is when an arena tournament is close to ending, your opponent stalls not giving you the point
> Okay, i will note it down that trolling is only when what you mentioned. Where are the guidelines that says that this is the only way of trolling? I just want to be careful, because if tomorrow apart from what you mentioned I did something else and then the opponent reports me for trolling I cannot quote your comment there. I need guidelines to justify my action.
Its not only of course in my view its basically doing extra, unnecessary things with intent to annoy or sadden the victim, in this case playing this position with hopes for a stalemate can be destroyed with the embarrassment of getting checkmated by 8 knights. Similarly in a position where you have the upper hand, your opponent might add you time this can be seen as an insult because instead of moving they just keep adding time. another example is when an arena tournament is close to ending, your opponent stalls not giving you the point
@KenulL_76 said in #8:
> Its not only of course in my view its basically doing extra, unnecessary things with intent to annoy or sadden the victim, in this case playing this position with hopes for a stalemate can be destroyed with the embarrassment of getting checkmated by 8 knights. Similarly in a position where you have the upper hand, your opponent might add you time this can be seen as an insult because instead of moving they just keep adding time. another example is when an arena tournament is close to ending, your opponent stalls not giving you the point
That's the issue. Sometimes my opponent does not resign on losing position and I know I cannot be stalemated, so that annoys me. So subjectively, it is trolling to me. The similar case is with a knight sacrifice in the beginning to break the castle, I know I cannot be tricked, so I get annoyed. What to do then? Should I just give up chess, thinking that it is full of trollers or should I report?
> Its not only of course in my view its basically doing extra, unnecessary things with intent to annoy or sadden the victim, in this case playing this position with hopes for a stalemate can be destroyed with the embarrassment of getting checkmated by 8 knights. Similarly in a position where you have the upper hand, your opponent might add you time this can be seen as an insult because instead of moving they just keep adding time. another example is when an arena tournament is close to ending, your opponent stalls not giving you the point
That's the issue. Sometimes my opponent does not resign on losing position and I know I cannot be stalemated, so that annoys me. So subjectively, it is trolling to me. The similar case is with a knight sacrifice in the beginning to break the castle, I know I cannot be tricked, so I get annoyed. What to do then? Should I just give up chess, thinking that it is full of trollers or should I report?
"I know I cannot be tricked" is super cocky in the first place. If you really cannot be tricked, why not be happy about a free win? I guess the main quest for you is to fix your cranky attitude, I guess we can't help you much with that.